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Truth and Lies of the Presidential Debates: Fact-Checking Trump and Harris' Claims

Vice President Kamala Harris and 45th President Donald Trump met for the first time on September 10 in a presidential debate hosted by ABC News. The 2024-minute duel between the candidates to become the next head of the White House, who will be elected in the fall of XNUMX, took place at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia. The truthfulness of the claims made by both candidates was checked ABC News, CBS News и The Guardian.

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At the first debate of this year’s presidential election in June, when Joe Biden was still the Democratic nominee, moderators largely removed themselves from fact-checking, so the lies and half-truths most often uttered by Trump went unquestioned during the prime-time debates.

Having collected the statements made by both candidates on Tuesday, September 10, we have arranged them according to the following principle: each of their statements goes from truthful to requiring clarification and finally to outright untruth. Let's start with Kamala Harris, and not because we are guided by the principle of ladies first, but because her statements contained very few questionable facts. But Trump remained true to himself and burned like a child, drawing for voters terrible pictures generated by his own imagination. What are the evil immigrants devouring cats and dogs in the city of Springfield, Ohio!

On the subject: About taxes, borders and Trump: what Kamala Harris said at the Democratic convention

So:

What Kamala Harris Said

Harris: Trump 'killed' bill that would have secured border

Fact checking: True

This year, a bipartisan group of senators introduced a $20 billion plan to dramatically improve security along the U.S.-Mexico border. It would add hundreds of Border Patrol agents, ICE agents, and asylum officers. It would build a new border wall, expand detention facilities, end catch-and-release practices, effectively close the border entirely, and raise the bar for asylum claims.

A powerful border patrol union that had previously backed Trump publicly endorsed the bill. But within hours of its introduction on Feb. 5, Trump urged his party to oppose it, even though many Republicans had spent years lobbying for some of the security measures included in the deal.

Trump has openly cited election year politics as motivation for his position.

“This bill is a big gift to the Democrats and a death wish for the Republican Party,” he wrote on social media. The bill failed on a key procedural vote in the Senate in May, with all but one Republican voting against it, including those who helped craft the deal.

Harris Claims Trump Funded AD Calling for Death Penalty of Central Park 5

Fact checking: True

Shortly after the arrest of the Central Park Five, black teenagers wrongly accused of raping a white athlete in 1989, Trump took out full-page ads in local newspapers calling for New York to bring back the death penalty. As Trump’s byline put it, “these robbers and murderers” should “suffer, and when they kill, they should be executed for the crimes they have committed.”

Harris Claim: 16 Nobel Laureates Say Trump Plan Will Increase Inflation, Lead to Recession

Fact checking: Mostly true

Harris correctly describes what the Nobel laureates have said about inflation during Trump’s presidency. But while the group describes Harris’s program as “significantly superior” to Trump’s, their letter does not specifically predict a recession by mid-2025. Instead, the group wrote, “We believe that a second Trump term would have a negative impact on the U.S. economic position in the world and a destabilizing effect on the U.S. domestic economy.”

The group of 16 economists included George Akerlof, Angus Deaton, Claudia Goldin, Oliver Hart, Eric S. Maskin, Daniel L. McFadden, Paul R. Milgrom, Roger B. Myerson, Edmund S. Phelps, Paul M. Romer, Alvin E. Roth, William F. Sharpe, Robert J. Shiller, Christopher A. Sims, Joseph Stiglitz, and Robert B. Wilson.

Harris Says Trump Will Impose $4000 'Sales Tax'

Fact checking: Partially correct, clarification needed

Harris estimates the potential costs if Trump imposes tariffs on imported goods. He has advocated a tariff of at least 10% on most imports and at least 60% on Chinese imports.

Estimates of the potential costs and likely scale of tariffs vary, however. An analysis by the Action Center for American Progress, a progressive policy institute, estimates that a 20 percent tariff on most imported goods, combined with a 60 percent tax on Chinese goods, would result in a tax increase of about $3900 a year for middle-income families.

The Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan think tank, has calculated that a 10 percent global tariff and a 60 percent tariff on Chinese goods would reduce average after-tax income by about $1800 in 2025.

Economists told CBS News that ordinary consumers would bear the brunt of higher import tariffs due to higher prices on goods, which would effectively act as a tax. In an interview with The New York Times, Robert Lighthizer, who served as Trump’s chief trade negotiator and still advises his campaign on trade, said the burden on American households could be offset by tax cuts.

Harris Statement: Biden-Harris Made Historic Investments in Clean Energy

Fact checking: Clarification required

The US clean energy investment budget (more than $559 billion as of August 2023) is the largest in the world, according to the World Economic Forum (WEF). About a third of this investment is directed to low-carbon electricity generation projects, and about a quarter is directed to the development of low-carbon efficient transport, the WEF explained. In the first quarter of 2024, the US “continued its record growth” and reached a new high of $71 billion in investments in clean energy and transport, the Clean Investment Monitor reported.

Still, the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) said in March that the United States now produces more crude oil than any other country, and has done so for the past six years in a row. In December 2023, the United States hit a new monthly record of more than 13,3 million barrels per day, according to the EIA.

The Harris-Walz campaign told ABC News that the trillion-dollar figure cited by the vice president is based on the combined spending of the Inflation Reduction Act, the CHIPS and Science Act of 2022, and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Act. In a statement, they explained, “Vice President Harris was proud to cast the deciding vote on the largest investment in history to address the climate crisis, and under a Biden-Harris Administration, America is more energy secure than ever, with the highest domestic energy production in history.”

Harris: Trump's Taliban Deal Led to Chaotic Afghan Troop Withdrawal

Fact checking: Clarification required

The government’s top observer of the war in Afghanistan calls Trump’s 2020 deal with the Taliban “the single most important factor” in the rapid collapse of Afghan forces a year later. But the same office says Biden’s decision to stick to a firm date for the withdrawal of U.S. troops was also a factor.

Trump’s deal with the Taliban called for the withdrawal of U.S. troops by May 2021 and the release of 5000 fighters from Afghan prisons, provided they did not attack U.S. forces. Afghan forces perceived the agreement as “a signal that the U.S. was handing Afghanistan over to the enemy in a rush to leave,” according to the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction. Trump also reduced U.S. troop levels to the lowest level in the 20-year war, and Afghan forces were not ready to take over, according to the inspector general.

Biden aides say the poor security situation when he took office in January 2021 left the president-elect in a nearly impossible position. Biden could have sent U.S. troops to try to shore up the weakened Afghan government. But that would have extended the country’s longest war and exposed American troops to renewed attacks from the Taliban. Biden’s announcement that he would stick to the 2021 withdrawal date contributed to low morale among Afghan troops and paved the way for the government’s collapse and the Taliban’s subsequent takeover, the inspector general said.

Harris Says Trump Will Be Protected From Criminal Prosecution If Elected

Fact checking: Partially true

The court did rule in June on the core powers, which include the ability to make treaties, veto bills, nominate cabinet members, appoint ambassadors, serve as commander in chief of the military, and grant pardons. The court said presidents enjoy “at least presumptive immunity” for other “official acts” — broadly defined as actions within the “outer perimeter” of official duties but not “clearly or appreciably outside the scope of his authority.”

While the decision has been interpreted as granting broad protection to the president, the court said presidents are “not above the law” and do not enjoy “absolute” immunity, leaving room for a narrow range of cases in which a sitting or outgoing president could face criminal prosecution. Beyond that, the court said, there is no immunity for “unofficial” acts.

U.S. Attorney Jack Smith brought criminal charges against Trump. The Supreme Court’s decision does not mean those prosecutions cannot proceed, but it has significantly delayed the proceedings and made it more difficult to convict Trump. If he had won a second term, Trump’s Justice Department could have fired the special counsel and effectively dropped the cases against him.

Harris: Trump 'Intends to Implement' Project 2025

Fact checking: Need context

Conservative allies and former advisers to Donald Trump released a 2023-page policy plan in April 900 called Project 2025. The plan was commissioned by the Heritage Foundation, a prominent right-wing think tank. It details proposals for staffing the government and restructuring federal agencies, writing regulations, managing the economy, and ensuring national security.

Harris claims Trump “intends to implement” a “detailed and dangerous” plan if he wins a second term. But Trump has denied any connection to Project 2025, saying on social media in July: “I haven’t seen it, I have no idea who’s in charge of it.” He has publicly denounced its substance as “seriously extreme” and a “hard right” strategy.

“I don’t agree with some of the things they say, and some of the things they say are absolutely ridiculous and horrible,” Trump wrote on social media. However, many of the priorities in the document are widely supported by Trump, including building a border wall, mass deportation of illegal immigrants, and banning transgender athletes from women’s sports.

Dozens of former members of his administration, including former Cabinet secretaries and West Wing aides, helped create the project. Many of the same people helped craft the Republican Party platform, ABC News reported. Speaking at a Heritage Foundation event in April 2022, Trump said, “This is a great group that will lay the groundwork and lay out the blueprint for what our movement will do … when the American people give us a tremendous mandate to save America.”

Harris' Statement: 'Trump Left Us with Worst Unemployment Since the Great Depression'

Fact checking: Need context

The unemployment rate peaked at 14,8% in April 2020, while Trump was in office, and that was actually the highest rate since the Great Depression, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. But unemployment quickly fell to 6,4% in January 2021, by the time Trump left office, as the economy began to rebalance. And that 6,4% unemployment rate was still better than the 10% peak during the Great Recession in October 2009.

Stripping out pandemic statistics, the lowest unemployment rate under Trump was only slightly higher than the lowest rate under Biden. Both were good numbers: 3,5% under Trump and 3,4% under Biden, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis and the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Harris Claims: 'If Donald Trump Is Re-Elected, He Will Sign National Abortion Ban'

Fact checking: False

Trump has said he has “no regrets” about picking Supreme Court justices who struck down constitutional rights to abortion. But he has also repeatedly promised that if elected, he would not sign a federal ban on abortion and would leave the issue to the states. One of the open questions this year was whether he would enforce the Comstock Act, an 1873 law that prohibits the shipment of materials used in abortions.

Among other things, the law would make it illegal to ship mifepristone, a drug used to end early pregnancies. The Biden administration has said the law is unenforceable because the drug has medical uses other than abortion and there is no way to know how it was used. Trump's running mate, J.D. Vance, and other conservatives have called for the law to be enforced.

In an August interview with CBS News, Trump said that while "we'll discuss the details," he would not invoke the Comstock Act.

Harris Statement: 'We've Created More Than 800 New Manufacturing Jobs While I Was Vice President'

Fact checking: Lie

Details: Bureau of Labor Statistics data for August showed that the U.S. has added about 2021 manufacturing jobs since President Biden took office in January 739.

On August 21, the Labor Department released a preliminary revision to its data that estimated that the number of manufacturing jobs created in the 12 months ending in March was likely 115 lower than the initial estimate. The final calculation is due in early 000. If the revision is correct, the total number of manufacturing jobs created during the Biden-Harris administration would be closer to 2025.

It's also worth noting that many of these gains followed large job losses in 2020 at the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. manufacturing jobs have been growing largely since 2010, with the exception of 2020.

Harris Claims Trump Exchanged Love Letters With Kim Jong Un

Fact checking: Partially false

Trump did exchange letters with Kim Jong Un in August 2018 after the two leaders held a joint summit in Singapore in June 2018. Trump tweeted that he thanked the North Korean leader “for your wonderful letter — I look forward to meeting you soon.” The White House said at the time that Trump had sent a response to the North Korean leader, but did not provide details about what was in Kim Jong Un’s letter or what was in Trump’s response.

In August 2019, Trump told reporters that he had received a "very nice letter" from North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

In September 2018, he admitted to those gathered at a pre-election rally that there had once been a tough conversation between the two leaders, and then...

"And then we fell in love, okay? No, really — he wrote me beautiful letters," he said at the rally. Trump has often spoken favorably of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un during and after his presidency.

What Trump said

Trump Claims Biden Administration Has Not Fired Anyone Involved in Chaotic Afghan Troop Withdrawal

Fact checking: True, but clarification is needed

No one who was directly involved in the chaotic withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan in 2021 has truly been held publicly accountable.

Trump appeared to be specifically referring to the suicide bombing that killed 13 U.S. service members. U.S. Central Command eventually concluded that the attack could not have been prevented and that members of the Marine sniper team had been mistaken when they told others they had a suicide bomber in their sights.

Trump, Republican lawmakers and several Gold Star families say they believe the investigations do not go far enough.

Trump Says Kamala Harris Wants to Ban Fracking

Fact checking: Clarification needed

It’s true that Harris once called for a ban on fracking entirely, but she says she has since changed her political stance. During a CNN town hall on climate change in 2019, when she was still a senator, Harris said, “There’s no question that I support a ban on fracking.” (Fracking is an environmentally damaging method used to extract oil and natural gas from underground rock.)

Harris said she supported California’s efforts to end the practice in her home state when she was attorney general. But she ultimately changed her mind about fracking when she became Biden’s running mate in 2020. In October 2020, Harris said neither she nor Biden would ban fracking. Harris reiterated during the presidential debate that she would not ban fracking.

Trump Claims: He Said He Shut Down Nord Stream 2 Pipeline, 'Biden Brings It Back On Day One'

Fact checking: Mostly lies

Nord Stream 2 is an undersea pipeline that would allow Russia to increase its natural gas exports to Western Europe by bypassing Ukraine and depriving Kyiv of billions of dollars in access fees. It’s true that Trump imposed sanctions in 2019 that halted construction of the pipeline. But the pipeline was nearly complete by then, and much of the project was completed during Trump’s presidency, according to a 2020 analysis by the Congressional Research Service.

Later in 2021, Biden lifted sanctions on the pipeline builder at Germany's request, but reimposed sanctions the following year when Russia invaded Ukraine.

Trump's Statement: Crime in the US Has Risen

Fact checking: False

FBI data showed that violent crime fell during the Trump administration, spiked in 2020 during the pandemic, and continued to decline afterward.

Violent crime rates declined by 6% in 2023 and by 15% in the first quarter of 2024.

Violent crime had been declining for most of Trump's presidency, according to the FBI, which uses information provided by law enforcement agencies. But it spiked in 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Since 2020, it has been declining across the U.S. and is approaching pre-pandemic levels in 2022. Preliminary FBI data for 2023 show that overall violent crime has fallen another 6%.

While the data is preliminary, it includes figures submitted by 80% of the country's law enforcement agencies.

Trump Claim: Harris, Walz Support Abortion 'At Seven, Eight, Nine Months... And Probably After Birth.'

Fact checking: False

There is not a single state that allows the killing of infants after birth. Infanticide is illegal in all 50 states. His false claim stems from the refusal of many Democrats to support any legal restrictions on abortion, and he specifically cites comments by former Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, a physician who once said that in the rare cases of late pregnancy when the fetus is not viable, doctors deliver the baby, resuscitate the fetus if the mother so desires, and then have a “discussion” with the mother.

While most states that allow abortion do so only up to fetal viability, some, including Colorado, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont and Gov. Tim Walz's home state of Minnesota, place no legal restrictions on abortion procedures. Abortion rights advocates say the lack of legal repercussions does not mean doctors will attempt to terminate healthy, full-term pregnancies.

In fact, access to late-term procedures is limited, expensive and medically complex. They are typically performed only when a woman’s life is at risk or the fetus cannot survive. Many Democrats say they want to pass legislation that would codify the 1973 Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade, which protects abortion rights before a fetus can be viable.

In 2023, Walz signed a bill that included an update to Minnesota law regarding medical care for infants born alive as a result of an abortion, according to the Minnesota Star Tribune. The updated state law requires that “all reasonable steps consistent with good medical practice… be taken by responsible health care personnel to care for an infant born alive,” according to the Star Tribune. The law states that an infant born alive is considered a full human being and “is given prompt protection under the law.”

Trump's Statement: He Denies Participation in Project 2025

Fact checking: False

Trump has denied knowledge of Project 2025, a 900-page plan for an aggressive right-wing overhaul of the U.S. legal and political system. Project 2025 proposes filling federal agencies with more Trump political appointees and loyalists.

Although Trump has repeatedly tried to distance himself from the project, which proposes to limit citizens' rights, his policies largely coincide with Project 2025.

The Guardian's Rachel Leingang reported: "Trump knows the Heritage Foundation well and has spoken at its events, and Kevin Roberts, Heritage's leader, has previously said he and Trump have spoken several times. Project 2025's authors and supporters include a host of former Trump administration officials."

Trump denied this: "I have nothing to do with Project 2025. It's there, I haven't read it and I don't want to read it on purpose. I'm not going to read it."

However, CBS News identified at least 270 proposals in the published plan that are consistent with Trump's past policies and campaign promises.

Trump Claims: Immigrants Taking Over Cities

Fact checking: False

While some U.S. cities have seen an influx of immigrants, most have arrived legally, with work permits or permits to stay while their cases progress through the courts.

Overall, immigrants are less likely to commit crime than native-born Americans, according to numerous large studies, including one by the conservative Cato Institute.

Trump: "[When] you look at what it's done to our country, and when you look at these millions (and) millions of people pouring into our country every month, where I believe it's 21 million people, not 15, as they say. And I think it's a lot more than 21. It's more than the state of New York. Poured in — and just look what they're doing to our country."

Details: The number of migrant encounters with Customs and Border Protection (CBP) at the U.S.-Mexico border has reached record highs in the past four years under the Biden administration. But the numbers are nowhere near the numbers cited by Trump, and not everyone who crossed the border under Biden has been allowed to stay.

CBP has recorded more than 8 million migrants at the southern border, both legal and illegal, since Biden took office in 2021, according to federal authorities. Customs and Border Protection has never recorded “millions” of migrants in a month. Its highest monthly total was in December 2023, when CBP processed more than 300 migrants.

Beyond those processed by Customs and Border Protection, there are migrants who successfully cross the southern border illegally and remain undetected. CBP estimates that 2021 million migrants have evaded apprehension since the start of fiscal year 1,7.

Just because migrants came to the attention of CBP doesn’t mean they were allowed to stay. Many were admitted to the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court. At the same time, the U.S. has rejected or deported more than 4 million migrants since the start of fiscal year 2021, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

Trump Claims: Immigrants Eating Pets in Ohio

Fact checking: False

"In Springfield, they eat dogs, people who come here, they eat cats... they eat the pets of the people who live there. And that's what's happening in our country, and it's a disgrace," Harris' opponent said.

The story of migrants eating pets has been making the rounds in right-wing media in recent days and has been repeated by Trump's running mate, J.D. Vance.

"You mentioned Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did contact the city manager. He told us that there were no credible reports of specific allegations of pets being hurt, injured, or abused by individuals in the immigrant community," moderator David Muir told Trump.

The Springfield News-Sun reported that police "have not received any reports of pets being stolen or eaten."

One of the main photos circulating online, showing a man holding a dead goose, was taken not in Springfield but in Columbus, Ohio, two months ago. Its author told ABC News he was surprised to see the image being used to “promote false stories.”

Migrants are drawn to the region by job opportunities and a low cost of living, according to the city’s website. The city estimates that there are about 12 to 000 immigrants living in the county, and rapid population growth has strained housing, health care and school services. But local officials say the migrants are in the country legally and that many have received temporary protected status from the federal government.

Trump Claims: He Said He Wanted to Provide 10 National Guard Troops to Protect Capitol, But Nancy Pelosi Rebuffed His Offer

Fact checking: False

The final report of the bipartisan Committee to Investigate the January 6 Attack on the US Capitol found there was “no evidence” to support the claim that Trump gave the order to “prepare 10 troops for January 000.”

The report quotes President Trump’s acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller, who directly denied the claim under oath. He said there was “no direct order from the president” to have 10 troops on standby for January 000. Instead, the report notes that when Trump mentioned that number of troops, it was not to protect the Capitol, but that he “raised the idea of ​​deploying 6 National Guardsmen to protect him and his supporters from any perceived threats from left-wing counterprotesters.”

Trump's statement: 'We have inflation... the worst in the history of our country'

Fact checking: False, although inflation was indeed high

It is true that at the beginning of Joe Biden's presidency the annual inflation rate peaked at about 9% (June 2022), but this is not the highest rate on record.

There are several examples of the U.S. inflation rate being much higher than 9%, including immediately after World War II and during the oil embargo of the late 1970s and early 1980s, when the inflation rate peaked at 14,5%. The inflation rate as of July 2024 is 2,9% per annum, the lowest in three years.

Trump Claims: He Lost the 2020 Election on 'Technical Reasons'

Fact checking: Lie

Trump lost the 2020 election after Biden won 306 electoral votes compared to Trump's 232 electoral votes.

Since losing the 2020 election, Trump and his allies have filed more than 60 lawsuits to challenge the election results. The vast majority have been dismissed or dropped.

Trump Claims Biden Administration Left $85 Billion in 'Brand New, Beautiful Military Equipment' in Afghanistan That Was Seized by Taliban

Fact checking: False

$83 billion is the total amount the United States has spent on security assistance in Afghanistan since 2001.

Still, the Defense Department’s inspector general estimates that $7,12 billion in U.S.-funded equipment was seized by the Taliban when the U.S. left. That includes 78 aircraft, about 9500 air-to-ground munitions, 40 vehicles, 000 weapons, and nearly all of the night-vision, surveillance, communications, and biometric equipment provided to Afghan forces, according to the government watchdog.

Trump Claims He 'Probably Got Shot in the Head' by Harris

Fact checking: Lie

Trump suggested that the July 13 attack may have been because of Harris. The FBI has not established a motive for why Thomas Matthew Crooks shot his victim. Trump said: “That’s who used the gun, not me. She used the gun. I probably got shot in the head because of what they’re saying about me. They’re saying I’m a threat to democracy.”

At a briefing on August 28, FBI Director Robert Wells said, "At this time, the FBI has not identified a motive or any accomplices or associates of Crooks who were aware of the attack."

"We don't see a specific ideology associated with our subject matter, whether it's left or right. It's really a mix, and we're still trying to analyze it and draw conclusions," Kevin Rojek, FBI Special Agent in Charge of the Pittsburgh Field Office, said at the same briefing.

Trump Claims Harris Is Bringing People In, Paying Them To Attend Her Rallies

Fact checking: Lie

Trump: "People don't go to her rallies, there's no point in going. And the ones that do, she brings them in and pays them to be there, and then she shows them in a different light."

The August 2024 Facebook post was shared on Trump's Truth Social and Kevin Sorbo's X. The post depicts a purported Craigslist ad asking paid actors to carry signs reading "Anti-Trump."

The post is a doctored image of another fabricated 2019 Craigslist ad offering to fly paid actors with "Pro-Trump" signs to a rally in Phoenix.

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When both are wrong

The issue is the economy. At the debate, Trump boasted that the US economy was “the best” under his administration, while Harris noted that he left the US with “the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.”

The facts: They are both wrong, though Trump is wrong a lot and Harris is wrong a little.

While unemployment jumped to its highest level since the Great Depression immediately after the pandemic, it had fallen by the time Trump left office.

Meanwhile, Trump's "better economy" rhetoric has been anathema to fact-checkers since he was in office.

"Best" is a very vague term, but by several measures, including GDP, unemployment, and the trade deficit, the economy was far from its peak.

Here are some final numbers for his term, compiled by FactCheck.org:

  • The economy lost 2,7 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased by 1,7 percentage points to 6,4%.
  • Wages grew faster than inflation. Average weekly earnings for all workers rose by 8,4%, adjusted for inflation.
  • Corporate after-tax profits rose and the stock market set new records. The S&P 500 index rose 67,8%.
  • The international trade deficit that Trump promised to reduce has widened. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008, up 36,3% from 2016.
  • The number of people without health insurance has increased by 3 million.
  • Federal debt held by the public increased from $14,4 trillion to $21,6 trillion.
  • House prices rose by 27,5%, and home ownership increased by 2,1 percentage points to 65,8%.

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